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Steve - Would you consider bringing back the traffic lights system and keeping it as simple as possible?
It's much better to know if a turn is going out than being in the dark.
League 3 may very well go out tonight (Hopefully it will).

I understand about the postal industrial action etc but you have addressed that as best you can by giving everyone an email option on a temporary basis.
Wed/Thurs (as an example) deadlines seem to pass by without an update.
I wouldn't mind so much if it was delayed until Friday if I just knew in advance.
Surely you would know by lunchtime if it is or isn't, going to happen and the lights could reflect this.

Anyone else agree with me about the lights?
Whats your thoughts on it Steve? Thanks

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I completely agree Darren. It would be much appreciated by plenty number of managers if there was any sort of communication on deadlines beyond the current format.

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As much as I didn’t like the traffic lights at least it was a little insight, now it just gives 2 days when a league likely to be processed,however since you’ve changed to this system no turns have gone out on either of the days that you said they were, which leaves me baffled as to why you put Monday/Tuesday or Wednesday/ Thursday, I even messaged confused.com who didn’t know or Alexa.
Please can you shed some light on this
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Yes please Steve bring back the Traffic Light system it was a system that worked out well for ALL Managers and yes i'll readily admit my turns are often submitted very close to deadlines but due to the nature of turnarounds I tend to look at my turn when it arrives and then check later on in the week for the deadline and do rely on nudges in the right direction by certain managers from time to time.

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More communication is definitely needed, I don't get how you set these days yourself and never hit them however if that happens let us know maybe

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Beesley said
More communication is definitely needed, I don't get how you set these days yourself and never hit them however if that happens let us know maybe  

This X2.

I’m not overly fussed about the traffic lights personally, but if you are unable to meet a self appointed deadline in the current system, then I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask for a 2 line message to maybe update us all if/when this happens.

I think it’s the lack of communication/updates that upset people more than the fact that the deadlines are being missed as we all know that you’ve got things going on away from Summit.

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Yup, adding my name to the hat. Since you have done away with communication turns have got worse for sure. things happen for sure, but as has been mentioned, most missed deadlines you surely know by around mid-day it's not going out, but we are left to wait until the end of the day in hope it's been done. You would be hard pressed to find anyone that would back that up as affective way to run a deadline-based game.

I have in past complained about the traffic light system but just to explain that, again, you would turn it yellow on inputting turns and it would stay that way for a couple of days sometimes. It felt like it was an update that didn't actually mean anything.

I am certain we all know this will actually change nothing, but I think we are all getting fed up with deadlines that mean nothing and then no communication when they are missed.

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I agree with what the others are saying. The traffic lights at least gave us an idea if the turn was on its way now we have no clue if you are getting them out on the deadlines you set or not.

It would be good if you could let us know if you won’t be hitting the deadlines instead of us being left in the dark which seems to be happening lately

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I agree with my learned colleagues above!

Steve, whilst you may not feel inclined to reinstate the Traffic Light system especially given the current difficulties you are facing, I actually think now is the best time to do it. It would manage our expectations better, prevents unnecessary frustration for us all and checking to see if a league has been processed (we'd know it's not going out if it was not started at 1600 on a given afternoon, for instance) which otherwise compounds frustration. That would reduce the general temperature on the Summit website and would therefore bring far less stress for you, especially over the longer term.

Particularly in reference to Justin's point about perhaps you could simply have the amber light as a warning to say you expect the league to be completed on that day.

We look forward to your response. All the best.

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Bryce you have said it more eloquently than I could ever do.
Steve, the general consensus seems to be that we need a commitment to improve the lines of communication. You may not be in a position to improve turn times. We accept and appreciate that.
It's a conversation that needed to be had in my opinion. The more people contribute to it the better.

Our continued best wishes as always from the entire Summit Community. I only hope you take this constructive criticism as it's meant. thumbsup
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The traffic lights system was better when it was actually updated, it gave us an idea what was going on, more than....nothing. I will throw my hat into the ring again with the offer to buy it off you Steve. I can imagine the answer but I think maybe with everything you have going on and the constant delays (which are constant now, for whatever reasons, that can't be argued really) - it may be time to hang up the Summit Soccerleague hat.. . .perhaps dontknow

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If its not going out tomorrow night can you post a delay message by lunchtime so we can all forget about it until next week? Thanks

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Nothing to add really other than it would save the battery life of my phone and improve my enjoyment of an evening in the pub, if I wasn't checking the website every 5mins to see if there were any updates. cheers

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Agreed we all understand life's problems and things change and get in the way regarding plans but a line or two on here if that's the case to let us know, simples

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Yes to the traffic lights.

However, if they are not updated then any system is pointless. Lately every deadline seems to pass with no communication or apology.

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I think we can safely say, with no response from Steve, L3 will not get sent out today. Wonder how non-league matters is doing......

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genghis82 said
I think we can safely say, with no response from Steve, L3 will not get sent out today. Wonder how non-league matters is doing......  

Who knows....if only there was enough time for both wink

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I can only assume he's busy processing the turn and hasn't found time to update us.
I hope that is the case or it will cause needless aggravation if it doesn't go out with no notification of a further delay. Deadline for submitting L3 was 26th of November.

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Sorry I forgot the word turnsheet.
Deadline for submitting L3 turnsheet was 26th of November.

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Well colour me surprised, it hasn't been done, yet again! Shocking. I don't think people would accept this kind of service in any other scenario where you are paying for something, regardless of how much it costs.

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