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While half the fun of Summit is learning from your mistakes and figuring out things for yourself, there is something to be said for helping out new Managers with advice in Summit. We all know that catching up with the established teams is quite a task! These teams have massive Squad Values and financial resources eg 80k fans paying top dollar every home game. Here's a thread to offer some top tips on how to avoid pitfalls etc and how to get competitive, with the hope they will enjoy the game more. Some managers have been playing for 25 years or more. Without giving away all their trade secrets, feel free to contribute wink

Bank Balance: My advice is to spend your money wisely and don't pay too much at auction. It's tempting to blow your cash but remember when your cash is gone, the game gets very difficult. Buy as many surplus players as possible from the established sides and try to pick up as many as possible for minimum.

Staff: Once you buy in your Staff at Auction you'll need to train some of them. These include a Youth Scout, Doctor and Physio. Train all of these to as close to Rate 25 as your patience allows, especially the Youth Scout. (The best way to train Staff is another sub section to follow). A High rate Doctor will prevent injuries but you will need to issue the instruction each week. A High rate Physio can reduce the number of weeks out injured. The most important Staff member of all is the Coach! Use him wisely, and always on a hand picked, short list of players that will be future proofed for seasons to come. A high rated Scout will enable you to see the hidden max potential of any given player.

Youth Players: A youth player can qualify for an end of season boost in rate once he gets the required number of appearances (see download on end of season changes for criteria). The opposite is true for old players.

Estimate what rate a player will be next season: Remember that your squad will be very different in a seasons time. Try to forecast what rate a young player will be next season. Ask yourself if he will still be of use to you then, considering the fact that each season the players at auction get better and better. Don't over spend on youth players that don't deserve your Coaches valuable time!

Hopefully this thread grows with solid advice for new managers that need a helping hand to get to grips with the game. I'm sure others will offer advice on topics such as, building your Stadium, Training Staff without loosing them, The Loan Market, Research on pcsummit.co.uk etc.

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Has a physio ever reduced an injury lengh?

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If you put him on a player who is out for 2 weeks, then more often than not he will bring him back a week early.

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Darren O said
If you put him on a player who is out for 2 weeks, then more often than not he will bring him back a week early.  

Doesn't seem to work for me I'll try it again! I normally just use them on the squad. I know the Doc one just works for one turn you have to keep instructing that one

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Unless I'm loosing my mind, which is entirely possible, it has worked for me on many occasions. My Physios are all rate 25 or near to it.
There's a thread with this info on it but it would be this evening before I could look for it.

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My Physio has reduced the number of weeks injured from 2 to 0 which is effectively 1 week, on game week 12 and 13.

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I'll try it!

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Thanks for a great post Darren.

I think the biggest tip for new managers is that this is a building game. If you get a new team and expect to win your division in the first season then it's likely you will be disappointed, think the game is rubbish and quit.

Building a Stadium that maxes out your home following is a must. If you start with a 17.500 capacity Stadium and you have a 20,000 following you are turning away home fans aswell as away fans and losing money.

Going mad on the auction is another classic mistake. Just contact other managers on the forum to look for bargains as there are always players for sale usually for way less than auction prices or use the loan system although that can be a little expensive as you have to pay a fee on top of the players wages.

Can you catch up with teams that have so much advantage on you? Yes you actually can. But if you're starting off in Division 2 or 3 you're not competing against them... you're competing against the teams in your own division. That's the target you should set.

Oh and to Mr Beesley there are no reported problems with physios but he would need to be a decent rating to have an effect

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Darren O said
My Physio has reduced the number of weeks injured from 2 to 0 which is effectively 1 week, on game week 12 and 13.  

I'm trying this this turn, although the rulebook says, and I quote: "The job of the Club Physio is to try to increase the players FITNESS rating. He will have no effect on a Player who is already injured." Watch this space.

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Fincer Athletic said

I'm trying this this turn, although the rulebook says, and I quote: "The job of the Club Physio is to try to increase the players FITNESS rating. He will have no effect on a Player who is already injured." Watch this space.  

This got me to Cris, but as Darren has bumped in another thread Steve explains, think I tried it and it didn't work, but will again also

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There's another useful post on Groundsmen. I'll copy and past it.

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Darren O said
There's another useful post on Groundsmen. I'll copy and past it.  

Where does it say he slightly increases home advantage and how does he achieve this?"

"It doesn't. There is a lot of hidden stuff in the game that is just that... hidden. Otherwise everyone would work everything out.

Since I've let this one slip... it's called Groundsman but it's really a stadium manager... a GRO working on the pitch order code 1 can increase home advantage by a small amount because he is preparing the pitch the way that the home manager wants. I can't honestly tell you by how much.

A GRO working on a Stand increases the state of repair of that Stand (again a hidden factor) and can lessen the decrease in following after a defeat or increase it after a win. Again I cannot honestly tell you how much.

If you have a GRO and a full Stadium every home match you may aswell leave him on the pitch. If you don't and want to increase home following then putting him on a Stand may make a difference.

I really need to update the rulebook don't I as a lot of managers are not sure what a DOC or PHYS does"

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Bumping this thread for Damien.

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Bumping for Mark.

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Bumping this thread for Lee.

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Great post Darren, thanks for bumping

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Excuse my naivety if this is ridiculously obvious, but max and min when there are players put up for sale, what are these parameters? Is it a percentage above and below the value of the player?

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Max is 120% of value. Min is 80%.

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Bryce said
Max is 120% of value. Min is 80%.  

Lovely thabks for confirming:)

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Multiply value by 1.2 for max and Multiply by 0.8 for min.

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