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Was told the PC would be ready today and I would get a text. Didn't get one and no answer to phone calls (it's usually just one guy on his own so not too surprised at that). So went there just now at 4pm and it was closed. He is supposed to shut at 5pm.

It doesn't make too much difference I guess since the post won't move until Monday anyway. I would love to say that League 1 will go out Monday for sure but if anything else can go wrong it probably will.  

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I am not a religious man. But as it's a Sunday. I am going to church. And I'm gonna pray that sometime in the next week , we may get our games back out lol. And I've put in for some new teams as well. So I'm hoping in the next week, I get them as well fingers crossed. Hopefully Steve has not lost too many managers over this delay. Keep in praying people , it's coming . 

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Any news on the summit front yet????

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I had a few Summit problems today but nothing a bit of inventiveness and some Blu-tac couldn't resolve. It meant it took me a lot longer than anticipated but all seems to be good now.

League 1 Week 19 is printing now but won't be finished before the last post so will go out tomorrow and the email turns will be sent some time during the day.

It's been a long one but relieved to have got there in the end victory

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I had a few Summit problems today but nothing a bit of inventiveness and some Blu-tac couldn't resolve. It meant it took me a lot longer than anticipated but all seems to be good now.

League 1 Week 19 is printing now but won't be finished before the last post so will go out tomorrow and the email turns will be sent some time during the day.

It's been a long one but relieved to have got there in the end victory  

Hello Steve,

Have you ever thought about now being the time to make summit email turns only? 

This would mean a  quicker turnaround time on leagues and mean teams can make more progress in the game. I think these delays have made people realise due to the computer situation that this game won't be around for too much longer so having quicker turnaround would be great.

League 1 on Monday
League 2 on Wednesday
League 3 on Friday. 

Maybe turn fees could be reduced due to this quicker turnaround also.

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Hi Steve,

As someone who has been playing Summit since 1996, with a couple of short breaks, if the game becomes email only, which to me is the antithesis of PBM I very much doubt i would continue to play. Surely it should be up to each player to decide what they prefer.

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pavo said

Hello Steve,

Have you ever thought about now being the time to make summit email turns only? 

This would mean a  quicker turnaround time on leagues and mean teams can make more progress in the game. I think these delays have made people realise due to the computer situation that this game won't be around for too much longer so having quicker turnaround would be great.

League 1 on Monday
League 2 on Wednesday
League 3 on Friday. 

Maybe turn fees could be reduced due to this quicker turnaround also.

Thanks  

Email only would not make the game quicker. I still have to print a turn so I can scan and email it.

I'm not sure why you think Summit won't be around much longer dontknow The long delay was due to a print supplier constantly messing me around, promising me a delivery deadline then moving it again and again. As soon as I gave up with them and took an alternative route it was sorted within 7 days. If I had done that at the start you would hardly have noticed.

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Jonty said
Hi Steve,

As someone who has been playing Summit since 1996, with a couple of short breaks, if the game becomes email only, which to me is the antithesis of PBM I very much doubt i would continue to play. Surely it should be up to each player to decide what they prefer.

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I agree. There will always be a postal option. I am having to up the turnfee for postal turns to keep pace with stamp price increases though which is a bit unfortunate but there will always be that choice.

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Steve said

Email only would not make the game quicker. I still have to print a turn so I can scan and email it.

I'm not sure why you think Summit won't be around much longer dontknow The long delay was due to a print supplier constantly messing me around, promising me a delivery deadline then moving it again and again. As soon as I gave up with them and took an alternative route it was sorted within 7 days. If I had done that at the start you would hardly have noticed.  

Not much longer as in the game has been run by yourself for 30 years. 

It won't be run by yourself for another 30 years. Will it be even 5 years?

I know you said in your message above your wife said about giving it up which adds to the view that the game could end shortly. My Mrs always gets her way. 

If the game isn't moved to a new computer will that be an issue also.

With it being email only you can have shorter deadlines as you don't have to post and wait for people to receive post. I get post once a week currently from RM. I could be sent an email on a Monday and easily submit to a Wednesday deadline for example. You couldn't with a postal option.

Just some feedback anyway.

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Not much longer as in the game has been run by yourself for 30 years. 

It won't be run by yourself for another 30 years. Will it be even 5 years?

I know you said in your message above your wife said about giving it up which adds to the view that the game could end shortly. My Mrs always gets her way. 

If the game isn't moved to a new computer will that be an issue also.

With it being email only you can have shorter deadlines as you don't have to post and wait for people to receive post. I get post once a week currently from RM. I could be sent an email on a Monday and easily submit to a Wednesday deadline for example. You couldn't with a postal option.

Just some feedback anyway.

Thanks  

Always take feedback on board - thanks.

The Mrs was just getting upset that I was getting so frustrated but it's sorted now. I get your other points... no I don't know what I will be doing in 5 years time and I get what you mean now by not having to wait for Royal Mail to deliver so email only could be faster but it isn't a route I'm planning on.

The only issue the Summit PC could have that would affect the game is hard drive failure. It's already had bits replaced here and there down the years and the hard drive has been mirrored onto an external drive so the Summit game could be restored from that if needed.

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Thanks Steve for letting me know that Summit will always have the Royal Mail option. It's quite understandable that you need to raise Turn Fees when 1st Class stamps go up in price. It's part of life!

Thanks again. 

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So pleased you are keeping the postal option available. There is something quite satisfying about going through all the games sheets before emailing the turn sheet off. I have a filling system with all my paperwork in. Love it. So looking forward to getting my paperwork through the post , hopefully this week. So I can open my manager office again

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Hi Steve. 

So have the games been sent out today ( Tuesday 8th )  ? .

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Hi Steve. 

So have the games been sent out today ( Tuesday 8th )  ? .

Thanks   

Yes indeed. They were actually in the post last night but after the last collection. You can check the status of Leagues with the traffic lights on the Support page

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Fantastic. Thanks so much Steve. I look forward to receiving mine. And the new teams I also asked for. Can't wait. Sooner they get here , the better. Thanks Steve. 

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Hi Steve. It's Wednesday the 9th today. And still not received any of my games. Can you just confirm that they were all sent out yesterday on Tuesday ?. Thanks Steve . Sorry to be a pain. I just want to get stuck back into them again. As you know , I have two teams. But have put in for some new teams as well ? . 

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Hi Steve. It's Wednesday the 9th today. And still not received any of my games. Can you just confirm that they were all sent out yesterday on Tuesday ?. Thanks Steve . Sorry to be a pain. I just want to get stuck back into them again. As you know , I have two teams. But have put in for some new teams as well ? .   

Yes the League 1 team was in the post Monday night and I sent you out a League 2 team today. I'm sure Royal Mail will decide to deliver as soon as they have finished delivering parcels whistle

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Ok Steve thank you. What about my other two teams. When will they be sent out ? 

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Ok Steve thank you. What about my other two teams. When will they be sent out ?   

If you want more teams please mention it in the name changes section of the turn submission for whichever League you want as you now have a team in all three Leagues.

Note that all Leagues are at or above the 50 managed teams limit so it may not arrive straight away. I would suggest getting used to the teams you have before taking on more and when you get a directory sheet you can see which teams are unmanaged and request one of them on your turnsheet

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Hi Steve.

Ok thanks. I look forward to receiving my new asap 

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