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.... has been increased from 50 to 75

I've run this on a test league multiple times and it doesn't appear to cause software issues. However there is no substitute for rolling it out to the game community and asking them to break it. Therefore I have to include the proviso that it may be adjusted or withdrawn altogether if problems are reported.

Rather than a long speech I will detail this in point format:

Players currently in the database are not affected. This change will only apply to newly generated players either new players on the Auction or to Youth Coach finds.

League 3 is not affected. This applies to only Leagues 1 and 2. 50 rating is enough for League 3 at present.

Most players will still have a max 50 max rating. 50-60 max rating will be rare, certainly not every turn. 60-70 max rating players much rarer still. 70+ rating... well how often does Messi come along? They will be there but only 2 or 3 a season at most.

Just a reminder to see the max potential rating of a player. You need a Scout rated at least 20. Order Code SCO NUMBBER - 5 - PLAYER NUMBER - CLUB NUMBER You need the Club number as you can scout players at other clubs not just your own. You need a 25 rated Scout to get the exact max potential, the report decreases in accuracy by 1 for each rating under 25.

I can see that managers will want to sign auction players just in case they have a 50+ max potential rating, because you can't scout auction list players so in that regard it's a bit random. That's fine but but a reminder that the max squad size is 21 players. If you go over that then directors may auction a player at random, even your star player and even the following week so I would be careful at following that strategy. Sometimes you just have to hope to get lucky!

I hope you will like this change but I'm sure you will let me know. As for adding another interesting aspect to the game... yes I think it does.

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This could be a real game changer! I think L1 and L2 badly needed this.
I'm glad it doesn't apply to L3.
I think it could revitalise L1 and L2.
I welcome it. clap

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Not sure this is good idea jumping max up to 75 will just benefit cash rich teams who will overbid on 50 rated players.
No point raising max to 75 if the auction list still contains players rated from 35-43 as will take 3 seasons coaching a player up to 75.
This rule should then coincide with youth players boosting pass the 40 depending on Max and games so if you got youth player rated 37 but gets 33 games should be able to boost to 43 if Max allows.
Would an idea be that increase max ratings 5 points over the next few seasons so 55 next season 60 season after and so on this way everyone stands a chance of increasing there ratings not just cash rich clubs.
That’s just my point view.
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When is this coming into the game? I wish you had said this when I had £190m in bank

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Youth Scouts will become relevant again. I have no doubt Steve will throw the cat amoung the pigeons by putting high rated players on the auction list that will have low max potential. Let people bid high on these lemons! Only the very odd player at auction will have a high max.

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I do think the max potential needed to be lifted, 75 is a bit of a jump though and I do worry I now need to buy a whole new squad! I don't think Steve is going to put high rated players all of a sudden on auction tho

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I do also feel the rich clubs will suddenly start buying every player on auction just in hope of finding these new potentials , i don't think sqaud size will stop them they will sell or Tran 2 players to keep squad at 21

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I think the chance of seeing players above rate 45 at auction is slim. I think this is more about developing Youth players. I think most of the players at auction will continue to have a similar max potential to now. I have no doubt that countless millions will be wasted at auction in search of a rare gem. It's a good way of flushing some money out of the game at the top level.

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Yeah be fun when auction buys suddenly appear on the forum the next week we will know what's happened! Shit potential!

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Must admit not to happy with it having partly built a new league 1 club was enjoying the challenge but may think twice now with them.
Do agree something needs to be done in the future to keep the leagues running but I think we are ok for a few seasons yet and it would be nice for a bit of notice.

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Still digesting this......75 is a massive jump and it means a 49 rated player is perhaps no longer the star he was.

Small point but you said....."most players will still have a max 50 max rating. 50-60 max rating will be rare" does that mean most players will have a max rating below 50 (as all do currently)?

I suppose percentages on the split of <50, 50-60 and 60+ is a bit much to ask....maybe??

Well the situation has changed! Lets see what happens. At one point players maxed out at 25, we'll have to adapt.

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Still digesting this......75 is a massive jump and it means a 49 rated player is perhaps no longer the star he was.

Small point but you said....."most players will still have a max 50 max rating. 50-60 max rating will be rare" does that mean most players will have a max rating below 50 (as all do currently)?  

Good point, it will be good to get clarity on that.

1) Are all new players going to have a “minimum” maximum of 50, 2) are existing players all going to have a max potential of 50?
3) if not, is 35 still the “minimum” maximum rating?

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Helky said

Fincer Athletic said
Still digesting this......75 is a massive jump and it means a 49 rated player is perhaps no longer the star he was.

Small point but you said....."most players will still have a max 50 max rating. 50-60 max rating will be rare" does that mean most players will have a max rating below 50 (as all do currently)?  

Good point, it will be good to get clarity on that.

1) Are all new players going to have a “minimum” maximum of 50, 2) are existing players all going to have a max potential of 50?
3) if not, is 35 still the “minimum” maximum rating?  

Steve does say 50 to 60 will be rare so guess the min max won't be 50

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My other thought is on the age of the player surely if you are lucky enough to say find a 60 player coach in up even he’s say 30 and then 31 and then should start losing points per age that he is but with ratings now shooting up surely this needs to balanced like any player rated 51 should lose double the ratings applied to those rated under 51 if you coach a player to say 75 gonna take a long time to worthless player losing up to 3 points on 33 yr old is nothing.
I like the idea of higher max ratings but I’m not so sure it’s as simple as just raising ratings unless it’s done gradually.

Would have preferred other rule changes than just increase in ratings more like sorting out loan situation with injuries.

The selling/swapping of players which a hot potato at the minute surely every player that transfers to a new club should be given a set contract I don’t say 18 weeks and cannot sold/swapped until a new contract is wanted or not and just put an asterisk next to the newly purchased player.

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True, a 70 rated player may be useful until he's about 60......

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Thanks very much for the feedback, much appreciated.

It's only the max POTENTIAL rating of a player that has been increased. It doesn't mean you will suddenly find a 70 rated player on the auction list for the rich clubs to bid for. By the way, there are very few rich clubs. I know the Bank Balance sheet lists clubs with a few hundred million in the Bank but they are few as it only shows the top five.

Players currently in the database are not affected as I said already. New players will have a max rating of 35-50 just the same but occasionally one will have a max above that. I can't put it into percentage terms sorry. I could have set the max lower but to be honest the chance of finding a 70-75 max player is really low, probably as much chance of Marine making the 3rd Round of the Cup and drawing the Premier League leaders at home.

50-60 yes you may see occasionally, 60-70 well lets just say rare.

We all know Summit is a building game. Player ratings increase naturally if you are winning games or alternatively you can use your Head Coach to increase ratings. Those are the only way you will get a player up to that max rating, young player boosts stop at 40. It means that even if you are a Division Three Club you can train a youth player up to 50+ or maybe get lucky at auction.

Far from handing an advantage to rich clubs it actually does the opposite. I already made the point in the opening post that if anyone tries to 'buy up' the auction list and goes over 21 players they could find their star player auctioned off the following turn to bring the numbers down (not a new rule, always been there)

Hope that's some clarification

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Fincer Athletic said
True, a 70 rated player may be useful until he's about 60......  

Yes I'll look at that

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Don't get the squad size point Steve a rich club will just keep a squad of 20, buy a player if he doesn't have the good potential sell him the next turn or Tran 2 him!

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Beesley said
Don't get the squad size point Steve a rich club will just keep a squad of 20, buy a player if he doesn't have the good potential sell him the next turn or Tran 2 him!  

Yes, but that could end up being expensive and fruitless. If you keep buying players at value for say 10 mill and Tran2 for £5mill next turn you'll lose your cash fast!

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Steve said

Yes I'll look at that  

As the maximum fall increases by 1 each year, I imagine a 40 year old could be losing up to 10 points. A bit of geeky maths tells me the average fall over the ten years to 40 will be 27.5 points, surely enough to get hi retiring to sell garden furniture in B&G or whatever.

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